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This thread functions as a quick recap of EVE Vegas for Pandemic Horde. The main purpose is to get people excited and hyped about upcoming events such as EVE NT (London) / EVE Amsterdam and EVE Canada and maybe deciding to make it over to for a meet near them (or not near them) as well. It also functions as an attempt to convince people that meeting us in RL is really not as scary as it seems!
It also functions as a way for me to take some time to reflect on the trip, I would like to ask everyone who went to share their personal experiences, what did you like, what did you not like, would you come out and meet us again? Anything really! Please respond in this thread.
Wednesday
Since I was travelling in USA for a short period of time, in a failed attempt to prevent jet lag, I came in from Atlanta on Wednesday after the flight was horribly delayed. Not the best start of a midweek in Vegas to say the least.
We organized a chill meal on Wednesday night, I had been eating american food for the last week and while that is not bad at all the greasers were getting to me a little bit. So I asked Graydor our Las Vegas local to find a nice European restaurant. We ended up at a French place with their own wine store. The food, view of a lake and atmosphere was really nice and it was a great start of the Las Vegas meeting.
Thursday
My FAVORITE DAY, it’s hard for me to explain over text for me how much it means when a member of our community decides to open their home to all of us. It helps us ease into the event and just have a chill and quiet moment to get to know all the new faces and catch up with old ones.
The food this year was even better than last year and we had A LOT of people over. We’re gonna be exploring other options for next year because it will arguably be hard to fit much more people next time. There are already some ideas floating around but I wanna see who the early bird hardcore Vegas 2019 goers are next year before we start announcing anything on this front.
Friday
Friday the main event started with a keynote, I honestly have to say I did not catch much of the actual event between running around meeting people, taking care of some things and trying not to worry about work, it was pretty hectic. Additionally, these days so much of the event is streamed that it’s really not that much of a shame if you miss some things. The NBI pretty much kept me updated as news came in (thnx guys <3)
In the evening the P(L)anfam dinner was organized at a Mexican or Brazilian restaurant. I honestly don’t know at this point anymore every time I would guess which one people would yell at me that I was getting it wrong so let’s assume its a Brazilian restaurant and get yelled at in this thread probably .
On a more serious note, it's been rewarding for me personally to see our attendance grow over the years. And like Elise and Hedliner put it best, it’s nice for everyone from all 3 communities (Waffles / PL / PH) to be in the same room even if only for a few hours. I had a quick check with Jaymere who organized the dinner as I had some concerns about our attendance growing even more next year. He indicated he didn’t expect this to be an issue so let's make sure we pack the restaurant next year!
The story Elise told about the hand-drawn autographs and a PL’s members health issues hit me quite hard. I don’t wanna go into too much detail on these public forums but I feel it's important to get a mention. EVE Communities are tight-knit groups, people have played, met and known each other for years. When tragedy hits people you know it’s not just some random 12 year old on the internet screaming into the microphone, its people we care about.
The member in question did a lot for Horde back in the early days, when we had a lot of PL helping us. I wasn’t really aware of his health issues as I never really wanted to pry, but it was rough seeing Elise tear up and it shows how much this damn game and especially the community means to all of us.
Saturday
More event stuff and at night a trip to a very nice nightclub on the Strip of Las Vegas. Before that though we decided to go get some quick food with a small group of guys. We sadly spend nearly 2,5 hours, between waiting for seating and their billing system going down I can say that we wasted quite a bit of time that we rather would have spent hanging out.
For me personally, especially the Saturday night event is especially fun as there is both room to dance but also a lot of room to just chill and talk with people. We sadly came in just as Permaband started playing and missed quite a bit of the chill portion.
For those not aware, the permaband is CCP’s band comprised of musically talented employees within the company. You can find of their songs / video clips and shows here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4ACF917EAB70339A It’s not a CCP party without these guys and girls turning up. I always find it hilarious that the dance floor is relatively empty when the warmup DJ is playing and suddenly a million nerds fill up the floor when a completely unknown band (to them) show up.
Really cool tidbit is Dylana got CCP Guard to wear our Scooty Puff Glasses on stage which was cool as FUCK!
Sunday
Sunday was a day of chill, I caught some panels for the very first time the Jetlag was not bothering me so I had a good night sleep (just in time to go home!) and Qymm and Roarch organized a nice meal at a buffet at the Mirage. It was a nice last evening supper and way to wind down and say goodbyes!
Shoutouts
The issue with shoutouts is that I will forget someone and they will feel bad, everyone has been amazing this event, a lot of people stepped up and organized tidbits of the weekend. People spend a lot of their own money for others or helped out in other ways.
Without a few people stepping up and doing these things some people wouldn’t have been able to make it this year or would have had such a great trip. I wanna thank all of you for looking out for each other and showing up when it counts!
But I do wanna give some shoutouts:
@Dylana Aivo : Just like for Iceland you stepped up again to help organize the swag, it’s been amazing to see this sort of stuff take shape. We’re not the best at outward facing advertisement because historically we just don’t care that much. It’s been really good to see that grow and take shape and i’m very excited about what the future brings in this regard.
@Qymm Phyton : A relatively new face in Horde, first time event go-er for EVE who teamed up with Dylana and I want to echo the statements above! Thank you for taking care of everyone and helping with everything.
@Graydor & his wife: Thank you for letting me crash at your place in a very jetlagged state, and sharing your dogs with us. I honestly would take one home if I could! Again welcoming us the way you do every year is the best gift you can give this community and I am grateful we keep proving to be worthy of that trust.
@Alcoholic Satan : I’m so glad you managed to come, without you putting in the early effort and getting people hyped a lot would not have made it out. We need to do more of this, we need to do a better job of conveying the message that we are fun, safe and cool to come and hang out with and that everyone will feel included.
@Piratetrader : Thank you for opening up your suite to us! It gave people a place to go and chill for a bit and have a good time.
@Nidia Masters : Thnx for being so nice in RL <3
Personal Reflection
I put this open and for everyone to see because I feel it's important to be transparent about this. I’m just gonna not filter this at all in an attempt to convince some people why they should give these meetings ago.
I’m writing this at the airport while waiting for my first flight to be boarding basically just brain dumping my thoughts and feeling as they come up. I feel pretty socially and emotionally drained, it’s been a pretty busy trip for me. Going from full on working to vacation with only a few hours in between, was much rougher than I expected I had trouble putting that aside.
On top of RL with family, health situations haven’t been too great also taking a great amount of my attention and energy away from the game. This has been going on for a while and is becoming more and more normal where I had to take a day and just chill last Vegas this year. I felt a lot better! Much of that is also because I flew out earlier and took the time to wind down. Anyone who knows travelling will take a toll on them and spends a large amount of the aeroplane I advise to do the same. Come a few days earlier the event will be much more enjoyable because of it.
I’ve not been as active and present as I should be the last 3 months, my workload and responsibilities at work basically meant I had to take a step back from the things I wanted to do and required me to focus on the things I NEEDED to do. And while that isn’t a big issue I would lie if I said that wouldn’t eat at me at times.
However, one thing these trips are really good at is getting you hyped for EVE and everything around it again. I hope to take all of that raw energy back with me and after I recover start chugging away at the things we’ve honestly been neglecting.
That NEEDS to be more than just programming, there are goals and aspects we set out for Horde that are at a standstill or improving at a pace I am uncomfortable with. One of the main things we’ve always done and I’ve always gotten energy from is the fact that we’ve always been improving consistently. Every few months we’d hit a milestone looking back and thinking WTF were we doing back then. While a lot of aspects in Horde have that today, not much are within my sphere of influence and I wanna get the things I do care about back on track.
I felt like constantly juggling around my attention and time between different people and groups. This has been a big learning experience for me personally and I think there is much to improve here. But also took a tremendous amount of energy from me personally that I didn’t expect.
I’m not the biggest social guy, I need to put in energy and make an effort to be a social / energetic person. It’s something I need and want to work at for much broader reasons than just a computer game. And I hope I've been able to mostly be that guy the last couple of days EVE is allowing me to learn a lot more than just computer games & technical skills.
One of the main concerns this event because we had so many people is that people didn’t feel included. I really really really hope this isn’t the case but I do want you to speak up if this is the case, either by posting here or pming me personally. It’s important for us to have that talk so I can see what we can do better and how to prevent that from happening. There were some times where I was wondering if someone was Horde or not but was just too tired or preoccupied to come and say hi. So I thought ‘i’ll just do it later!’, I hope later did not become never.
Yesterday I had a pretty rough moment, we had a good dinner the last night and I didn’t want to let the moment pass without at least saying something. Except I didn’t think of that until we were all sitting there having a good time.
I don’t mind public speaking, I’m not nervous about it, I do it all the time for work. But here’s a big difference, EVE is personal, it's close, it's not for work or teaching it’s something that in my case I spend the majority of my free time on. And I had a rough time dealing with that, tearing up like an idiot. It’s easy to downplay that but I would rather do the opposite, I’m proud that I have a hobby I can be this invested in and that means this much to me.
Thank you all for making that hobby better every single day.
This thread functions as a quick recap of EVE Vegas for Pandemic Horde. The main purpose is to get people excited and hyped about upcoming events such as EVE NT (London) / EVE Amsterdam and EVE Canada and maybe deciding to make it over to for a meet near them (or not near them) as well. It also functions as an attempt to convince people that meeting us in RL is really not as scary as it seems!
It also functions as a way for me to take some time to reflect on the trip, I would like to ask everyone who went to share their personal experiences, what did you like, what did you not like, would you come out and meet us again? Anything really! Please respond in this thread.
Wednesday
Since I was travelling in USA for a short period of time, in a failed attempt to prevent jet lag, I came in from Atlanta on Wednesday after the flight was horribly delayed. Not the best start of a midweek in Vegas to say the least.
We organized a chill meal on Wednesday night, I had been eating american food for the last week and while that is not bad at all the greasers were getting to me a little bit. So I asked Graydor our Las Vegas local to find a nice European restaurant. We ended up at a French place with their own wine store. The food, view of a lake and atmosphere was really nice and it was a great start of the Las Vegas meeting.
Thursday
My FAVORITE DAY, it’s hard for me to explain over text for me how much it means when a member of our community decides to open their home to all of us. It helps us ease into the event and just have a chill and quiet moment to get to know all the new faces and catch up with old ones.
The food this year was even better than last year and we had A LOT of people over. We’re gonna be exploring other options for next year because it will arguably be hard to fit much more people next time. There are already some ideas floating around but I wanna see who the early bird hardcore Vegas 2019 goers are next year before we start announcing anything on this front.
Friday
Friday the main event started with a keynote, I honestly have to say I did not catch much of the actual event between running around meeting people, taking care of some things and trying not to worry about work, it was pretty hectic. Additionally, these days so much of the event is streamed that it’s really not that much of a shame if you miss some things. The NBI pretty much kept me updated as news came in (thnx guys <3)
In the evening the P(L)anfam dinner was organized at a Mexican or Brazilian restaurant. I honestly don’t know at this point anymore every time I would guess which one people would yell at me that I was getting it wrong so let’s assume its a Brazilian restaurant and get yelled at in this thread probably .
On a more serious note, it's been rewarding for me personally to see our attendance grow over the years. And like Elise and Hedliner put it best, it’s nice for everyone from all 3 communities (Waffles / PL / PH) to be in the same room even if only for a few hours. I had a quick check with Jaymere who organized the dinner as I had some concerns about our attendance growing even more next year. He indicated he didn’t expect this to be an issue so let's make sure we pack the restaurant next year!
The story Elise told about the hand-drawn autographs and a PL’s members health issues hit me quite hard. I don’t wanna go into too much detail on these public forums but I feel it's important to get a mention. EVE Communities are tight-knit groups, people have played, met and known each other for years. When tragedy hits people you know it’s not just some random 12 year old on the internet screaming into the microphone, its people we care about.
The member in question did a lot for Horde back in the early days, when we had a lot of PL helping us. I wasn’t really aware of his health issues as I never really wanted to pry, but it was rough seeing Elise tear up and it shows how much this damn game and especially the community means to all of us.
Saturday
More event stuff and at night a trip to a very nice nightclub on the Strip of Las Vegas. Before that though we decided to go get some quick food with a small group of guys. We sadly spend nearly 2,5 hours, between waiting for seating and their billing system going down I can say that we wasted quite a bit of time that we rather would have spent hanging out.
For me personally, especially the Saturday night event is especially fun as there is both room to dance but also a lot of room to just chill and talk with people. We sadly came in just as Permaband started playing and missed quite a bit of the chill portion.
For those not aware, the permaband is CCP’s band comprised of musically talented employees within the company. You can find of their songs / video clips and shows here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4ACF917EAB70339A It’s not a CCP party without these guys and girls turning up. I always find it hilarious that the dance floor is relatively empty when the warmup DJ is playing and suddenly a million nerds fill up the floor when a completely unknown band (to them) show up.
Really cool tidbit is Dylana got CCP Guard to wear our Scooty Puff Glasses on stage which was cool as FUCK!
Sunday
Sunday was a day of chill, I caught some panels for the very first time the Jetlag was not bothering me so I had a good night sleep (just in time to go home!) and Qymm and Roarch organized a nice meal at a buffet at the Mirage. It was a nice last evening supper and way to wind down and say goodbyes!
Shoutouts
The issue with shoutouts is that I will forget someone and they will feel bad, everyone has been amazing this event, a lot of people stepped up and organized tidbits of the weekend. People spend a lot of their own money for others or helped out in other ways.
Without a few people stepping up and doing these things some people wouldn’t have been able to make it this year or would have had such a great trip. I wanna thank all of you for looking out for each other and showing up when it counts!
But I do wanna give some shoutouts:
@Dylana Aivo : Just like for Iceland you stepped up again to help organize the swag, it’s been amazing to see this sort of stuff take shape. We’re not the best at outward facing advertisement because historically we just don’t care that much. It’s been really good to see that grow and take shape and i’m very excited about what the future brings in this regard.
@Qymm Phyton : A relatively new face in Horde, first time event go-er for EVE who teamed up with Dylana and I want to echo the statements above! Thank you for taking care of everyone and helping with everything.
@Graydor & his wife: Thank you for letting me crash at your place in a very jetlagged state, and sharing your dogs with us. I honestly would take one home if I could! Again welcoming us the way you do every year is the best gift you can give this community and I am grateful we keep proving to be worthy of that trust.
@Alcoholic Satan : I’m so glad you managed to come, without you putting in the early effort and getting people hyped a lot would not have made it out. We need to do more of this, we need to do a better job of conveying the message that we are fun, safe and cool to come and hang out with and that everyone will feel included.
@Piratetrader : Thank you for opening up your suite to us! It gave people a place to go and chill for a bit and have a good time.
@Nidia Masters : Thnx for being so nice in RL <3
Personal Reflection
I put this open and for everyone to see because I feel it's important to be transparent about this. I’m just gonna not filter this at all in an attempt to convince some people why they should give these meetings ago.
I’m writing this at the airport while waiting for my first flight to be boarding basically just brain dumping my thoughts and feeling as they come up. I feel pretty socially and emotionally drained, it’s been a pretty busy trip for me. Going from full on working to vacation with only a few hours in between, was much rougher than I expected I had trouble putting that aside.
On top of RL with family, health situations haven’t been too great also taking a great amount of my attention and energy away from the game. This has been going on for a while and is becoming more and more normal where I had to take a day and just chill last Vegas this year. I felt a lot better! Much of that is also because I flew out earlier and took the time to wind down. Anyone who knows travelling will take a toll on them and spends a large amount of the aeroplane I advise to do the same. Come a few days earlier the event will be much more enjoyable because of it.
I’ve not been as active and present as I should be the last 3 months, my workload and responsibilities at work basically meant I had to take a step back from the things I wanted to do and required me to focus on the things I NEEDED to do. And while that isn’t a big issue I would lie if I said that wouldn’t eat at me at times.
However, one thing these trips are really good at is getting you hyped for EVE and everything around it again. I hope to take all of that raw energy back with me and after I recover start chugging away at the things we’ve honestly been neglecting.
That NEEDS to be more than just programming, there are goals and aspects we set out for Horde that are at a standstill or improving at a pace I am uncomfortable with. One of the main things we’ve always done and I’ve always gotten energy from is the fact that we’ve always been improving consistently. Every few months we’d hit a milestone looking back and thinking WTF were we doing back then. While a lot of aspects in Horde have that today, not much are within my sphere of influence and I wanna get the things I do care about back on track.
I felt like constantly juggling around my attention and time between different people and groups. This has been a big learning experience for me personally and I think there is much to improve here. But also took a tremendous amount of energy from me personally that I didn’t expect.
I’m not the biggest social guy, I need to put in energy and make an effort to be a social / energetic person. It’s something I need and want to work at for much broader reasons than just a computer game. And I hope I've been able to mostly be that guy the last couple of days EVE is allowing me to learn a lot more than just computer games & technical skills.
One of the main concerns this event because we had so many people is that people didn’t feel included. I really really really hope this isn’t the case but I do want you to speak up if this is the case, either by posting here or pming me personally. It’s important for us to have that talk so I can see what we can do better and how to prevent that from happening. There were some times where I was wondering if someone was Horde or not but was just too tired or preoccupied to come and say hi. So I thought ‘i’ll just do it later!’, I hope later did not become never.
Yesterday I had a pretty rough moment, we had a good dinner the last night and I didn’t want to let the moment pass without at least saying something. Except I didn’t think of that until we were all sitting there having a good time.
I don’t mind public speaking, I’m not nervous about it, I do it all the time for work. But here’s a big difference, EVE is personal, it's close, it's not for work or teaching it’s something that in my case I spend the majority of my free time on. And I had a rough time dealing with that, tearing up like an idiot. It’s easy to downplay that but I would rather do the opposite, I’m proud that I have a hobby I can be this invested in and that means this much to me.
Thank you all for making that hobby better every single day.